Not just nailing it at tailwaters of Beaver Dam White River Arkansas but everywhere there is sowbug, scuds and crane fly larvae. This is a variation of the original Utah killer bug. With a Tungsten bead and barbless competition hook getting down and hard. Landing all species of trout and panfish. My favorite way to use it is a double dropper setup under the indicator as either the anchor or the dropper. 5x all the way to 7X depending on light and size of fish you are chasing. It also works by itself with or without an indicator. Bouncing off the bottom or suspended.